Longtime lurker. Have a buncha' tube-equipped stuff (Wrist Rocket(s), Barnett "Diablo" circa 1980?, Marksman compound in box - terrible shooter BTW, plus etc. etc.). I've decided to step-up to a pinch-grip, banded, grown-up slingshot. My pinky-to-thumb-tip span is 8.5". I want band & tube versatility, plan to experiment for utility, accuracy is paramount (if I do MY part). I'm leaning toward a Hayes Scorpion or a Simpleshot Scout. Would like to stay within ~$45 budget. I searched the forum archives (not too web-savvy). I need input/opinions from human beings. 'Cuz if I don't, like pistol holsters, I'll have to store my bad-buys in an... even bigger garage. Thanks folks!
Advice? Steppin'-up to Adult Slingshot.
Posted 19 June 2017 - 03:26 PM
Posted 20 June 2017 - 12:37 PM
Scout with Flip-Clips for sure! One of the most versatile frames available for whatever setup you need. It's great for beginner and veteran shooters imo. My favourite pinch grip Ocularis frames right now are the BeanFlip and the R10.O, both from Simpleshot. The Ocularis plugs allow for flatbands and tubes.
The Scorpion is an excellent dedicated TTF shooter ideal for flatbands, but it would accept tubes if you wanted to. It does not have the same versatility as the Scout for obvious reasons but its great for its intended setup.
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Posted 20 June 2017 - 01:00 PM
They need to release the R10 in YellowJacket. Since they started releasing them in that material, the all black ones look so blah.
I agree! Add the aiming dimps and Yellow Jacket hdpe and I would be all over that.
Edited by SamuraiSamoht, 20 June 2017 - 01:01 PM.
Posted 20 June 2017 - 09:29 PM
Just a few words of advice—You may want to start shooting OTT, twisting the pouch to avoid fork hits, and then move to TTF. Fork hits are demoralizing when you're starting out. I started OTT, and then moved into TTF as well. I shoot both now. Pay attention to which is your dominant eye, since that will most likely determine which hand holds the sling. Some slings (ie. Scorpion), are "handed", so make sure you know what you want. I'd recommend lighter bands and ammo to start (1/4" and TB Blue is fun and cheap) so that you can endure longer shooting sessions while polishing your form and not fighting fatigue. Since I'm cross-dominant (ie. right handed, left eye dominant), I had to get used to drawing with my left (weaker) hand. Lighter bands helped me maintain better form.
As far as choices go, this may help you out:
Scout: Can easily switch between OTT/TTF. Flip clips keep band changes easy. Not great for tubes, but can accommodate them. Tough poly carbonate. On the down side, not as pocketable and the most expensive of the group ($39-Free shipping).
Axiom/Maxim Occularis: Occularis system makes it easy to try different bands and shooting styles (OTT/TTF), but has one advantage over flip clips: You can easily adjust your band length. HDPE will show fork hits. Mid priced ($24.99—Add some tubing or an extra bandset to get over $25 for free shipping).
Torque: Takes bands and tubes (comes with looped tubes). OTT (but can be made into a TTF tube shooter—See mods threads). Tough poly carbonate. Mid priced ($24.99—Add an extra bandset to get over $25 for free shipping).
TopShot: Takes bands and tubes. OTT. Tough poly carbonate. Cheapest of the bunch ($19.95—I think shipping is free), and in stock.
So here's my 2¢:
By all means, get a Scout—but why not wait for a sale from Simpleshot so you don't have to pay $40? In the mean time, since Bill doesn't do sales (at least that I've seen) grab a TopShot for $20. I like this sling way more than I thought I would—It's really comfortable, pocketable and fun, not to mention tough. I'm quite accurate with it, and it's easy to take with you an practice when you have a few minutes.You can experiment with tubes and flats, then when SimpleShot runs a sale, pick up a Scout or Occularis sling. If you really like OTT, you may want to try the Torque too. Have fun!
Edited by Stixshooter, 20 June 2017 - 09:30 PM.
Posted 20 June 2017 - 10:32 PM
Try a universal boy scout
Posted 20 June 2017 - 11:47 PM
Also fantastic value for money as you get a full-setup - https://simple-shot....-yellow-jacket/
The Torque is awesome but I'd recommend only if you're more 'seasoned'. With looped tubes you need to keep track of how everything lines up (more so than other frames I have tried) esp. with the narrow fork gap. Just when you get comfortable it has a habit of biting. Its the only frame I have ever had frame hits with (shooter error - bad day). I suspect with bands its not a big an issue.
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Posted 21 June 2017 - 08:44 AM
Are you stalking me ha I can't be tracked
With all due respect, you are NOT the first bloodless banshee who believed that to...be true.
Posted 21 June 2017 - 08:48 AM
Appreciate everyone's thought-provoking input. I should have been talkin' with y'all for YEARS!