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#41 AKTodd

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Posted 19 March 2017 - 10:57 PM

Deer Hunting! Would in my opinion, be the logical answer to your question. Putting food on the table, and in some areas increasing the number of deer you can harvest by having an archery season.  

 

For several reasons, its the biggest driving motivation for bow purchases across the US as a whole.

 

I'm taking up slingshots for small game, but would get in line for one that could take down a moose. :)



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Posted 20 March 2017 - 01:15 AM

I used to care about 'growing the sport' ... 'it should be in the Olympics' or 'a movie like Red Dawn but featuring slingshots would fuel this renaissance' , yada yada.   It's natural for those of us inside the circle to want to share and spread the passion, but even with world wide growth, it's still a niche activity.   The ECST barely attracts 40 shooters.   In China (pop. 1.38 billion) there's allegedly only 100,000 enthusiasts - a very small percentage.

 

Males, especially, like to 'point and smite' at distance.   In the near term, I can see continued steady, but not explosive growth.     

 

 

No-one at the ESCT contact the local schools and Scout/Girl Guide groups - with a lower entrance say $10 (supplying equipment and more suited prises)? That should swell the ranks significantly (from 40) - also bring it them as family groups... Dads. Obviously without experiencing these events not sure what they end up being like.

 

Do scouts have inter scout group tournaments?

 

Really surprised by the small numbers - seems on par with the UK I should suspect by percentage.



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Posted 20 March 2017 - 02:06 AM

another similar subject on slingshots as a sport? 

 

1) okay, like ive said in the past, slingshots have to be promoted as a target sport first. it can be done indoors and outdoors. it should be piggybacking along with some existing target shoot competitions like in archery and firearms, just a range to the side displaying what can be done with a proper set up and some practice.

 

2) slingshots made of metal, micarta, exotic woods, HDPE, and various materials are nice, but you also have to show people that you dont need to own some slingshot with a laser sight or titanium wristbrace with a light attached, its not a freakin rifle ! you cant compare the two! you have to start them off with a good ol fashioned natural as proof that it can be done on the cheap. 

 

3) gun control and local economy situations is what also does determine who picks up a slingshot. youre more likely to pick up a slingshot as an alternative if you are limited in owning a firearm due to either regulations, laws and finances.   those who do have firearms and money will usually pick up a slingshot for nostalgia or just for something different. 

 

4) explain the difference between a sling and a slingshot to people. 

 

5)organization, ruling body, or what ever you want to call it, is nice but you cant think of one just quite yet when theres a tourney or two being formed without such a thing. 

 

speaking of-  maybe there should be a tourney under the sponsorship of a vendor like in the days of past. for example a tourney sponsored by daisy/marksman/crosman or a tourney in the local area sponsored by , lets say, simple shot, A+, or predator .  but that may never happen because slingshots arent their 24/7 job. so until a major retailer or business helps, in a consistant matter, it will remain grass roots. 


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Posted 20 March 2017 - 02:11 AM

Nicely put Imperial. A nice short version of what I have been trying to get across.



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Posted 20 March 2017 - 04:01 AM

Nicely put Imperial. A nice short version of what I have been trying to get across.

i have my moments  :) 



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Posted 20 March 2017 - 04:03 AM

It would be cool for a forum to put together a set of rules as a guide for organisers... But its going to be difficult with too many chiefs...


Edited by mattwalt, 20 March 2017 - 04:04 AM.


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Posted 20 March 2017 - 05:53 AM

I don't know see the problem with tournments is most people don't like loosing only the best will show up at your tournaments. People that can't win will give it up probably.
But hunting everyone or at least more people can be successful .
And slingshot shooting is not exactly a spectator sport . It's not like everyone on earth just about knows what a slingshot is .
You would need many small local tournments for it to work . Like darts or pool for example
Just having one or 2 big ones only gets the best to show up . If you know what I mean .

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Posted 20 March 2017 - 01:07 PM

another similar subject on slingshots as a sport? 

 

1) okay, like ive said in the past, slingshots have to be promoted as a target sport first. it can be done indoors and outdoors. it should be piggybacking along with some existing target shoot competitions like in archery and firearms, just a range to the side displaying what can be done with a proper set up and some practice.

 

2) slingshots made of metal, micarta, exotic woods, HDPE, and various materials are nice, but you also have to show people that you dont need to own some slingshot with a laser sight or titanium wristbrace with a light attached, its not a freakin rifle ! you cant compare the two! you have to start them off with a good ol fashioned natural as proof that it can be done on the cheap. 

 

3) gun control and local economy situations is what also does determine who picks up a slingshot. youre more likely to pick up a slingshot as an alternative if you are limited in owning a firearm due to either regulations, laws and finances.   those who do have firearms and money will usually pick up a slingshot for nostalgia or just for something different. 

 

4) explain the difference between a sling and a slingshot to people. 

 

5)organization, ruling body, or what ever you want to call it, is nice but you cant think of one just quite yet when theres a tourney or two being formed without such a thing. 

 

speaking of-  maybe there should be a tourney under the sponsorship of a vendor like in the days of past. for example a tourney sponsored by daisy/marksman/crosman or a tourney in the local area sponsored by , lets say, simple shot, A+, or predator .  but that may never happen because slingshots arent their 24/7 job. so until a major retailer or business helps, in a consistant matter, it will remain grass roots. 

 

Correction and clarification . Slingshots ARE the 24/7 job of simpleshot ( Nathan Masters ) . Also becoming the 24/7 of Bill Hays and Jim Harris .



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Posted 20 March 2017 - 06:10 PM

Actually - it seems many of the main US/Canadian manufacturers are genuinely nice guys. 

 

Think SS is actually quite well suited to ladies shooting. Its probably a sport where they could actually perform better than guys... 

Well, I'm not disagreeing with you about the ladies, but there's something about those kind of folk - well, let me give you a f''rinstance - 

When my sister was a young lady, she started to learn how to play the accordion, but as she matured, a couple of body parts got in the way of the accordion pleats being compressed, the darn thing started sounding more and more awful, I can still hear her shrieks, and she just plain gave up on the instrument. We all thanked her.

 

 

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Posted 20 March 2017 - 06:13 PM

Chinese may own firearms for hunting with the correct licence... Very similar to the UK - only allowed firearms for hunting (bowhunting and crossbow hunting are banned) - in fact most countries have a similar set of legislation. Think the US is one of the few exceptions.

 

I sit partially corrected, thank you.

 

I was getting a sore spot there anyway, thank you.

 

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Posted 20 March 2017 - 06:16 PM

 

another similar subject on slingshots as a sport? 

 

1) okay, like ive said in the past, slingshots have to be promoted as a target sport first. it can be done indoors and outdoors. it should be piggybacking along with some existing target shoot competitions like in archery and firearms, just a range to the side displaying what can be done with a proper set up and some practice.

 

2) slingshots made of metal, micarta, exotic woods, HDPE, and various materials are nice, but you also have to show people that you dont need to own some slingshot with a laser sight or titanium wristbrace with a light attached, its not a freakin rifle ! you cant compare the two! you have to start them off with a good ol fashioned natural as proof that it can be done on the cheap. 

 

3) gun control and local economy situations is what also does determine who picks up a slingshot. youre more likely to pick up a slingshot as an alternative if you are limited in owning a firearm due to either regulations, laws and finances.   those who do have firearms and money will usually pick up a slingshot for nostalgia or just for something different. 

 

4) explain the difference between a sling and a slingshot to people. 

 

5)organization, ruling body, or what ever you want to call it, is nice but you cant think of one just quite yet when theres a tourney or two being formed without such a thing. 

 

speaking of-  maybe there should be a tourney under the sponsorship of a vendor like in the days of past. for example a tourney sponsored by daisy/marksman/crosman or a tourney in the local area sponsored by , lets say, simple shot, A+, or predator .  but that may never happen because slingshots arent their 24/7 job. so until a major retailer or business helps, in a consistant matter, it will remain grass roots. 

 

Correction and clarification . Slingshots ARE the 24/7 job of simpleshot ( Nathan Masters ) . Also becoming the 24/7 of Bill Hays and Jim Harris .

 

 

So are you saying that Bill is going to completely give up breeding/raising/selling Greyhounds (not the buses, silly) to only produce/distribute slingshots?



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Posted 20 March 2017 - 06:24 PM

I think the tournments should have life size knock down targets of animals . Even big game .
Something like they do with the airgun and sort of like 3d archery tournments do.
A combination of both.

Edited by romanljc, 20 March 2017 - 06:43 PM.


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Posted 26 March 2017 - 05:33 AM

Ulysses, Robin Hood, and large game capable vs. Volp, Treefork, and headshots on squirrels...

I think we've held our own. :)


... also Cupid, the Sagittarius Centaur, and men in tights vs. Dennis the Menace, broken windows and this -

Hahaha, I'm oh so glad my slingshot terrifies you.

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Posted 27 March 2017 - 09:53 AM

I was thinking it had to do with the High cost of archery gear. It can be a marketable thing, where they know they will get paid for. Since making Bows takes a long while to make. Most people just want it now, and don't want to spend a lot of time making there gear. Slingshots can be made rather quickly with natural materials (aside from rubber). They can also be made with reasonably priced materials fairly quickly as well. So marketing slingshots wouldn't get them the necessary money figure they are wanting or expecting.  

 

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Posted 28 March 2017 - 04:18 PM

another similar subject on slingshots as a sport? 
 
1) okay, like ive said in the past, slingshots have to be promoted as a target sport first. it can be done indoors and outdoors. it should be piggybacking along with some existing target shoot competitions like in archery and firearms, just a range to the side displaying what can be done with a proper set up and some practice.
 
2) slingshots made of metal, micarta, exotic woods, HDPE, and various materials are nice, but you also have to show people that you dont need to own some slingshot with a laser sight or titanium wristbrace with a light attached, its not a freakin rifle ! you cant compare the two! you have to start them off with a good ol fashioned natural as proof that it can be done on the cheap. 
 
3) gun control and local economy situations is what also does determine who picks up a slingshot. youre more likely to pick up a slingshot as an alternative if you are limited in owning a firearm due to either regulations, laws and finances.   those who do have firearms and money will usually pick up a slingshot for nostalgia or just for something different. 
 
4) explain the difference between a sling and a slingshot to people. 
 
5)organization, ruling body, or what ever you want to call it, is nice but you cant think of one just quite yet when theres a tourney or two being formed without such a thing. 
 
speaking of-  maybe there should be a tourney under the sponsorship of a vendor like in the days of past. for example a tourney sponsored by daisy/marksman/crosman or a tourney in the local area sponsored by , lets say, simple shot, A+, or predator .  but that may never happen because slingshots arent their 24/7 job. so until a major retailer or business helps, in a consistant matter, it will remain grass roots. 

 
Correction and clarification . Slingshots ARE the 24/7 job of simpleshot ( Nathan Masters ) . Also becoming the 24/7 of Bill Hays and Jim Harris .


Really, well thats new to me. I didnt think a couple of them wanted to quit their day jobs.

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Posted 28 March 2017 - 05:52 PM

Look I hear you. The difference is a box of ammo costs probably more than a slingshot. GKJ (TBH not his biggest fan - would probably enjoy a few beers with maybe) and a few others... well there is a bit of a long story there, which is not relevant right now... Most kids these days are raised fairly sheltered lives... xbox/PS... food comes off a shelf (not from a farm). Eggs are packaged vs laid... There is a huge disconnect between food and its origin - obviously that is something that people are working on rectifying (esp. in the UK with TV programs etc.). 

 

But if I had to just as let my 11 year old see that stuff on youtube she'd be under the table dribbling and shaking... let alone let her witness that first hand. its not that we shelter her from food truths - and in fact have incouraged her to find out as much as she can. She fishes - catch and release only but won't touch... Suggest she should go out and kill something she'll most probably be physically ill... And I'm sure she's not a minority. She's also a keen SS shooter...


If anything - Youtube clips like GKJ actually create a difficult scenario to manage - as it gives full access to uneducated 'hunters' to run riot in the countryside (without proper understanding of the law or consequences) - sort of a Bear Grills, survivor-man thing. It promotes bad practice, in a way of allowing a toddler loose with scissors. It also does not take much to have an activity banned.

 

Yes I agree with you. BUT only as one niche avenue. Hunting with SS is not the bright future of it as a sport - competition is. Everyone likes to know that they are better than the next guy - its human nature. No gore required.

 

MY packaged eggs were laid, one at a time.

 

Better than I'm doing...

 

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And... "Bear Grylls" is synonomous (sic) with "running around with scissors" - those who try to emulate him could easily get themselves killed - he's a thrill seeker more than an instructor of prudent wilderness survival techniques/skills. I wouldn't let my dog watch him if my  dog were my human kid. (  :werd: )

 

 

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Posted 30 March 2017 - 08:56 AM

I know the hunger games got more younger people in to archery that never were into it befor perhaps a blockbuster movie where the lead hero uses a slingshot would help a lot I bet .
Especially kids .

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Posted 31 March 2017 - 08:15 AM

Because we don't have a sexy Olympian to promote it.

https://youtu.be/XS7jXQAnG5k

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Posted 31 March 2017 - 08:48 AM

I dunno Bruce, you should go back and watch some of the Treefork firework lighting vids.  Watch him saunter back to the dongle ball, barefoot, after describing what will be an impossible shot.  Mrs. CornDawg actually invited herself to go shooting with me after watching one of those vids- a first!  Sexy man right there.   :)   I'd like to think I still got it goin' on but being semi-bald with no butt imposes limitations.  I'm currently working on making my smile look more sincere.



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Posted 31 March 2017 - 09:39 AM

I still think someone with strength to shoot 450 grain lead projectile into something like a hog and kill it on film will get more people at least hunters and archers into the sport then anything else.
Even if it's unrealistic for people to do that .
I saw one x military guy survival guy who claimed to kill a deer with one but there was no film footage only pics . The guy had arms like Popeye :)

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