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Is Jörg going too far?


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Poll: Is Jörg going too far? (160 member(s) have cast votes)

What do you think about the "Machete" video?

  1. I love it. Watching Jörg doing crazy things makes my day. (113 votes [76.35%])

    Percentage of vote: 76.35%

  2. It is OK. The Mythbusters do more dangerous stuff on TV, so why not? (22 votes [14.86%])

    Percentage of vote: 14.86%

  3. I don't care much about these videos, but tolerate them. (6 votes [4.05%])

    Percentage of vote: 4.05%

  4. I think this is bad for the community, the post should be deleted. (5 votes [3.38%])

    Percentage of vote: 3.38%

  5. Jörg is the walking reason for a global slingshot ban and should be kicked out of this forum. (2 votes [1.35%])

    Percentage of vote: 1.35%

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#101 Ram

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Posted 02 April 2011 - 01:19 AM

The cat in my avatar says he doesn't think so, but he's perfectly willing to admit that he's wrong if the evidence proves otherwise... :lol: :D :P
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Lol i like it!


#102 pelleteer

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Posted 02 April 2011 - 06:00 PM

View PostMoreluckthanjudgement, on 02 April 2011 - 01:19 AM, said:

Lol i like it!
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#103 dgui

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Posted 03 April 2011 - 08:09 AM

Your videos are Terrific.

#104 USASlingshot

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Posted 03 April 2011 - 08:22 AM

ill just throw my opinion in here.. i believe you makke fantastic videos, however the machete video seemd like you took it a bit to far risking your safety. Dont get me wrong, it was verry entertaining and cool. i just think you are taking risks that could end up fatal, you have been doing the smart thing by being safe. good job, and keep it up :)

#105 PandaMan

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Posted 03 April 2011 - 08:58 AM

View Postpelleteer, on 02 April 2011 - 06:00 PM, said:

It works! Thanks, PandaMan! B)

lol no problem. There are lots of other codes as well.

#106 Slingsta

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Posted 04 April 2011 - 06:22 PM

Who are these busybodies complaining about a man and his weapons? Leave Jorg alone! If you get freaked out by a machete catapult then you would probably look down on me when I fire massive amounts of lead downrange from my .44 magnum. I found this forum because of his entertaining videos. Thank you Jorg for exposing me to custom slingshots.

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Posted 05 April 2011 - 01:10 AM

jorg as the two magi from wanes world say "we are no worthy".
Slingshot man of the year. there are a few that just shine out and u can count them on two hands.
Hardest working man in slingshots. By rights it should be teenage males doing the invention, but between computer games & what mummy says they just turn-out pussys. Just thank the man and buy all the theraband u can before all those mothers out there find out and bann the stuff.

#108 Captain Smiley

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Posted 06 April 2011 - 06:21 AM

Geeze, people get all burned up over a guy shooting a little knife from a slingshot? Give me a break! Jorge, you are awesome, build a big enough slingshot, point it out over a lake,and I'll volunteer to be the ammo. Keep making your vids, I'll keep watching. Anyone who don't like them can watch the cute kitty vids.

#109 Roy

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Posted 07 April 2011 - 06:46 PM

Nice video Jorge. Hey people everyone is entitled to there own opinion. BBuutttt it is like anything else in this big world of ours, if it offends you or you don't like it, we all have choices. Your choice should be not to watch the video. variety is the spice to life. Does Jorge have to give his video's ratings now??? Everyone's opinion is good and important, it makes for a good forum that is why I became a member, the discussions are great keep up the good work forum members. I think we all enjoy it.

#110 Curt

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Posted 08 April 2011 - 07:08 AM

For me the video was entertaining and I am smart enough to not try it myself. Even if I would, I know it is my own decision and my own risk.

I wouldn't be here if it weren't for that video. It was outrageous enough to get my attention (and that was said in the video). Once it got my attention I looked at all of Joerg's other videos and I just finished up my first homemade slingshot and I joined this sight to learn more about slinging.

Thanks Joerg. I really enjoy your work and appreciate the introduction into a very enjoyable sport.

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Posted 08 April 2011 - 07:35 AM

Love the videos. The Machete video on Youtube is how I came across this place to begin with so keep making videos.

#112 mr.joel

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Posted 08 April 2011 - 08:21 AM

People have the right to express themselves whether it disturbs your sensibilities or not. I personally can't stand Nazis, for example, but I WANT them to have their parade every year. I want this because I recognize that everyone has a right to be heard, even if I strongly disagree. That is the trade off of free speech. It was paid for by your descendants in blood(I'm talking to the lily livered Americans). I'd be the first to tell you there have been and still are severe deviations from this train of thought, i.e., treatment of the Native Americans, treatment of immigrants in the 19th century, the Patriot Act, etc.. However, this line of thinking is a big part of what made our nation great. Unfortunately this is becoming less and less the case as time goes by. The fact that this is on the table exemplifies this. Not to say this is an American forum, but most of the objections are from Americans and I plea to their sense of freedom on this matter. As to Jeff, I see your point, and as a father I can understand your frustration. However, I think the matter is between you and your son, Joerg is in no way accountable.

Personally, I think if Joerg wants to launch an chainsaw, anvil, or a mechanized sphere with rotating blades for that matter on YouTube, that's up to him. Short of an atomic projectile, I don't see the issue. We all have done stupid things influenced by other people's stunts. This is part of life. If someone injured their self making his machete-launching slingshot, do you not think they wouldn't have done something else crazy they saw someone else do if his video were banned? Truly this is naive. Are we to ban everything radical and extreme based on the premise of keeping some idiots alive? I for one, say nay. These are just my opinions. My FREELY EXPRESSED opinions and hope we all can continue freely expressing ourselves, whatever avenue we choose, whether it be on this forum, YouTube, or anywhere else.

#113 JoergS

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Posted 08 April 2011 - 02:05 PM

Well, my latest challenge is to launch a plunger (the type that removes clogs in toilet plumbing, with the big red rubber dome and wooden handle). It is a project for German TV, to be filmed mid May.

I have started the work and it is frightening how far I can shoot the thing. I propel it with four TB black tubes, draw is 150 cm. I can only cock it in the vise.

I added long fins to the shaft of the plunger so it does not tumble.

The recoil when firing it from my modified machete shooter is frightening. Feels like shooting a .308!

Jörg

#114 mr.joel

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Posted 08 April 2011 - 09:25 PM

I must say, I find it ironic me defending YOUR free speech, Joerg. But it's not about you or me. It's about the ability to show us your next crazy contraption. Hope to see it soon.

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Posted 09 April 2011 - 05:25 PM

Never mind

#116 Henry in Panama

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Posted 09 April 2011 - 06:30 PM

If you can make that toilet plunger actually stick to something, I'll be impressed. May I suggest (this is for TV after all) the driver's door of a Maybach?

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Posted 09 April 2011 - 06:40 PM

View PostJoergS, on 08 April 2011 - 02:05 PM, said:

Well, my latest challenge is to launch a plunger (the type that removes clogs in toilet plumbing, with the big red rubber dome and wooden handle).



WooHoo! :lol: That sounds like an extreme version of those little suction cup tipped darts I used to shoot out of a toy gun as a kid. :D Can't wait to see it, J! B)

#118 JoergS

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Posted 09 April 2011 - 10:24 PM

Well, it does work pretty good. I can hit a 3' x 3' size target from 20 yards, easily, and it flies very straight.

It sticks OK, except when I shoot from close distance. Then the momentum is so strong that the plunger bounces off, the suction is not sufficient to hold it in place. The plunger weighs 7.5 ounces, quite heavy.

#119 lightgeoduck

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Posted 09 April 2011 - 11:17 PM

I am going to be honest, when I read this thread, I went and looked for the video having in mind that having the disclaimer "dont try this at home" wouldn't be enough to say that it was ok to have on your channel. The reason I thought I wasn't going to approve the video (IMO ) was because I have saw many of your videos, and realize you are "famous" in the slingshot community. This fame comes with responsibility, because once in the public eye , new people will flock for your guidance and knowledge. So "FREEDOM OF SPEECH" is out the window when you take on that roll, at least to the extent of haphazard freedom.


NOW WITH THAT BEING SAID, and AFTER watching the video. I so NO reason to worry having that video public. The purpose is quite clear, and there is no way to interpret that as a "suggested" project.

You have your videos that help introduce people to the hobby of the slingshot.
You have videos that share your designs to help viewers with their creativity.
You also have videos to display the limits,or pushing them, to satisfy the curious viewers.

the Machette video falls under the last category IMO. I feel it satisfied the "What if I did?" "Wonder if this would" thoughts that many may have when trying to extend out of "basic" slingshot hobbyist thought.
I would much rather see an experienced person like yourself try this, and be a spectator, that's for sure.

Besides, I don't see many people waiting for that monstrosity to come out in the open market :D


I am sure you have the same thoughts, and others share them as well.. I just wanted you to know that someone new to the hobby sees it the same way.


LGD

#120 mr.joel

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Posted 10 April 2011 - 10:19 PM

View Postlightgeoduck, on 09 April 2011 - 11:17 PM, said:

I have saw many of your videos, and realize you are "famous" in the slingshot community. This fame comes with responsibility, because once in the public eye , new people will flock for your guidance and knowledge. So "FREEDOM OF SPEECH" is out the window when you take on that roll, at least to the extent of haphazard freedom.


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Let's not get carried away, he's not running for president. Besides, even if he were, freedom of speech never goes out the window until you allow it, haphazard or not.

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Posted 10 April 2011 - 10:28 PM

View Postmr.joel, on 10 April 2011 - 10:19 PM, said:

View Postlightgeoduck, on 09 April 2011 - 11:17 PM, said:

I have saw many of your videos, and realize you are "famous" in the slingshot community. This fame comes with responsibility, because once in the public eye , new people will flock for your guidance and knowledge. So "FREEDOM OF SPEECH" is out the window when you take on that roll, at least to the extent of haphazard freedom.


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Let's not get carried away, he's not running for president. Besides, even if he were, freedom of speech never goes out the window until you allow it.


You are right, and I agree.. well except for the getting carried away part, and maybe missing the point I was trying to make where I stated "at least to the extent of haphazard freedom" at which "as stated in the rest of my post" that IMO I don't feel he went to that extent.


I just wanted to try to clarify my opinion, not debating,

Thanks for helping me keep my feet grounded though...


cheers

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#122 mr.joel

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Posted 10 April 2011 - 10:35 PM

I see you agree, I wasn't trying to be inflammatory. I just get tired of the overemphasis placed on "famous" people and their standpoint on various issues. He's just a guy having fun doing his thing, and I just think it's silly anyone would have a problem with that. He cut himself, oh well, so did I working on my truck. I bet that wasn't nearly as entertaining...

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Posted 10 April 2011 - 10:38 PM

121 posts on this one thread over a slingshot with, in all practicality, no real purpose besides a bit of interesting and trailblazing fun. I can't help but think Mr Sprave came up with this one just to ignite us and possibly get a video to go viral (it did both).

I've been saddened by the people who have wanted to have this video stricken from the web. Everyone hollers free speech loudly until something offends them and then they are all in favor of shutting people down. I jumped out of airplanes and went on many a road march to defend the rights of everyone, even those who don't hold with my right-wing views. This even extends to my dislike of Thera-Gold and most flatbands. Freedom of religion, freedom of speech, freedom to shoot ridiculous slingshots with Thera-Gold sets. But mainly freedom to pursue life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

There's no rule saying you have to agree with people, but you also can't force them into silence.

Mr Sprave, if I may, I would like to reccomend Grant's idea of a slingshot shooting chainsaws! Well, I'm waiting!

#124 Henry in Panama

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Posted 10 April 2011 - 10:42 PM

View Postmr.joel, on 10 April 2011 - 10:19 PM, said:

View Postlightgeoduck, on 09 April 2011 - 11:17 PM, said:

I have saw many of your videos, and realize you are "famous" in the slingshot community. This fame comes with responsibility, because once in the public eye , new people will flock for your guidance and knowledge. So "FREEDOM OF SPEECH" is out the window when you take on that roll, at least to the extent of haphazard freedom.


LGD

Let's not get carried away, he's not running for president. Besides, even if he were, freedom of speech never goes out the window until you allow it, haphazard or not.

Well, if he did run for president, I know a guy who can fix him up with a Hawaiian birth certificate, and I'd vote for him.:lol:

#125 mr.joel

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Posted 10 April 2011 - 10:50 PM

View Postjmplsnt, on 10 April 2011 - 10:38 PM, said:



There's no rule saying you have to agree with people, but you also can't force them into silence.




Sound wisdom, I couldn't agree more.


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