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[Frodo]

Hey everybody,

I' think the pouch is one of the most important factor's wich make a good shooter. I'm interested in all your different pouch styles.

Post them in here.  Pouch.JPG   830.85K   134 downloads That is my favorite pouch. pretty light weight and it can easily manage 1/2 steel (or lead).

I use a jig for scribing:  Pouch2.JPG   832.19K   107 downloads

Regards Friedrich

[ZDP-189]

I agree it seems important to me. I have heard many theories about pouch design and my own designs are constantly evolving. I like your taper idea.

I did some really light bands once. I'll have to look for the photos. They were under half a gram.

[ZDP-189]

Nylon mesh and 120lb test nylon cord 0.4g (0.014oz)



Nylon mesh and cotton thread stitching 0.2g (0.007oz)

[Skit Slunga]

ZDP-189, on 08 June 2010 - 10:57 AM, said:

Nylon mesh and 120lb test nylon cord 0.4g (0.014oz)



Nylon mesh and cotton thread stitching 0.2g (0.007oz)

Do these super lightweights outlast the bands? - what's the life span? Questions from a cheapskate ...

[ZDP-189]

I started some tests and got distracted as the Chrony still hasn't come. I think it's to early to call. In any case, I wouldn't shoot anything like this unless like me, you're just curious what would happen if the pouch was ridiculously light.

[baumstamm]

this is my best pouche. making it lighter with more holes dosn´t center the ball so good! but this need excelent lether!

[Frodo]

Yes, Baumstamm! It is a great pouch-style . I've got one and i copied it a few time!

And ZDP: I like your nylon pouch but are they nice to the touch? I think thats important, too!

[Skit Slunga]

ZDP-189, on 08 June 2010 - 01:08 PM, said:

I started some tests and got distracted as the Chrony still hasn't come. I think it's to early to call. In any case, I wouldn't shoot anything like this unless like me, you're just curious what would happen if the pouch was ridiculously light.

I've made a few of thin nylon webbing pierced with a large hot nail and reinforced with superglue ...and actually prefer them over leather.
Not purty but functional and seems to have outlasted 2 sets of bands- still going strong after 1200 shots thusfar. The webbing is from a freebie neck key chain.





Have about 15# combined of 3/8" & 7/16" ball on this dankung 4 hole leather pouch...




I use biopsy punches for the center hole( 3.5mm and lightning holes use a 2mm) and washers for the ball form.

[dgui]

I have pouch envy.

[Flatband]

I use Double Cupped ,Single Cupped , straight, all cowhide and all between 4 -6 ounces. Some stiff leather,some soft leather. I've tried nylon,different fabrics,screening,poly mesh, but I always come back to leather. I guess it's just the feel of good old leather. My favorite right now is a Double cupped pouch. No other pouch has a better grip ( that I've tried). Flatband

[pelleteer]

Lots of good stuff here. I usually use Trumark pouches that I mold into double cups and shorten a bit. I chop them off just behind where the factory holes are and then punch new holes of my own. I can also just punch for small holes for Dankung type tubing. I also have a couple of Baumstamm's pouches and they are excellent, very small and nearly weightless! Danny, I like the idea of nylon webbing. I've thought of it before, but I didn't know if it would hold up, so I haven't tried it.

[JoergS]

I really like the plastic pouches you find on the Saunders slingshots. They have a great grip, are really light and the attachment is truly elegant.

Regarding the weight, it is really important if you shoot lightweight ammo.

A 3 Gramm pouch weighs almost the same as a 3/8 steel ball, but less than 10% of a .75 lead ball...

So when I was hunting for the maximum speed with 3/8s, a super lightweight pouch and extremely tapered bands worked really well. But then the problem of the lengthwise tearing arises. So it is questionable if optimizing the weight of the pouch beyond a certain point makes much sense anyway.

Jörg

[fish]

some fine ideas here.

[smitty]

Just my two cents worth...I think of the pouches I have actually touched...Baumstamm, Flatband and Tex make some kinda awesome pouches. I used to think the pouch didn't matter too much, but boy was I dead wrong ! Now I think the pouch is the most important contributer to accuracy. I do like a soft pouch with just a touch of stiff to it.

[Frodo]

danny, on 10 June 2010 - 06:21 AM, said:

JoergS, on 09 June 2010 - 11:16 PM, said:

I really like the plastic pouches you find on the Saunders slingshots. They have a great grip, are really light and the attachment is truly elegant.

Regarding the weight, it is really important if you shoot lightweight ammo.

A 3 Gramm pouch weighs almost the same as a 3/8 steel ball, but less than 10% of a .75 lead ball...

So when I was hunting for the maximum speed with 3/8s, a super lightweight pouch and extremely tapered bands worked really well. . So it is questionable if optimizing the weight of the pouch beyond a certain point makes much sense anyway.

Jörg

But then the problem of the lengthwise tearing arises,

it is right ,i personly think we would be best to choose a little strong and thicker leather with light weight when we hunt,normally the hard and strong leather is best choice if use higher pull flatband or tube.cz the hard leather will become a little soft after you shoot for a while and not easy to arise lengthwise tearing also.

I use goat leather for my pouches since a few weeks. It's very thin and lightweight stuff AND it does tear. If you punch the holes right they will last

very long. acctualy i had no pouch wich broke. I don't like those thick pouches, the don't feel right.

Everyone should decide on his own!

 Chestnut-Milbro.JPG   1.76MB   38 downloads

Friedrich

[frosty2]

Hi folks,
I thought this might be a good thread to ask a question. My problem in shooting is that I lost my entire right thumb in a commercial fishing accident so I can not pinch the pouch like the rest of you. I pinch the pouch between my first and second finger, archery style, but with no string to hang on to it seems that all my effort goes into hanging on to the pouch and my release is poor with heavy bands. I have my slingshots for hunting and shoot fairly stout bands. I am looking for a pouch, trick, technique or suggestion that might improve the situation. You folks certainly seem like problem solvers and innovators so I thought I would toss this out for your help and ideas.

Thanks, frosty2

[Performance Catapults]

frosty2, that's the technique I use for holding the pouch as well, and I did pretty good with it at the Alverton tourny this year. I use Tex Express bands and have no issues. Only advice I can give is keep doing what you're doing. It's the technique I will be taking to my grave.

[whipcrackdeadbunny]

frosty2, on 24 August 2010 - 09:50 PM, said:

Hi folks,
I thought this might be a good thread to ask a question. My problem in shooting is that I lost my entire right thumb in a commercial fishing accident so I can not pinch the pouch like the rest of you. I pinch the pouch between my first and second finger, archery style, but with no string to hang on to it seems that all my effort goes into hanging on to the pouch and my release is poor with heavy bands. I have my slingshots for hunting and shoot fairly stout bands. I am looking for a pouch, trick, technique or suggestion that might improve the situation. You folks certainly seem like problem solvers and innovators so I thought I would toss this out for your help and ideas.

Thanks, frosty2

The Butterfly shooters grip on the underside of the pouch, opposed to the top, you could try that; from a bodily strength training point of view, I can't see why you can't acheive a satisfactory pull, unless you have tendon damage; just keep practicing and maybe strength train your fingers?

[Tex-Shooter]

Jim Harris and sometimes I use the index/middle finger pouch grip. Jim won a tournament using this grip. I used it the last half of the 2004 tournament that I won. My 16 pound express band sets are light enough to easily shoot using that grip. -- Tex

[JoergS]

frosty2, on 24 August 2010 - 09:50 PM, said:

I have my slingshots for hunting and shoot fairly stout bands. I am looking for a pouch, trick, technique or suggestion that might improve the situation.

May I suggest a slingshot release? It is not OK to use one in a tournament (even though you may get a special permission because of your accident), but for hunting it works in any case.

There is no commercial product AFAIK, but you can make your own. I have a vid with a tutorial up on youtibe. A slight variation is needed so you can operate it with your index finger.

Good luck

Jörg

[frosty2]

Thanks for all the replies. I probably should have said that I don't have a problem with large ammo -- marbles, .45 lead and such, it is 3/8 steel and arrows that give me trouble. I have went with golf tees in place of knocks but they were still hard to grip. I tried large yellow wire nuts but they hit the rest and mess up the flight (Chief AJ HFX). Has anybody ever tried to make a pouch "sticky" on the outside. I have thought about maybe a leather / rubber laminate or impregnating the outside with silicone caulk. Well thanks again and hope all your shots are bulls eyes. frosty2

[ZDP-189]

I think releases aren't allowed in competition, but if you're shooting for fun then I suggest a short cord on the pouch hooked into a ring-type archery release.

Back on the topic of pouches, I've recently received two of baumstamm's slings and his pouches are excellent. They are thin and tough.