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#41 Northerner

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Posted 18 August 2011 - 08:15 PM

I checked for 107s at Staples today. None in stock but they can order them. Price is $1.49Cdn for 1/4 pound. The brand is "Dixon" so I'll have to find out if this is the real rubber stuff or the soft non-latex junk.

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Posted 18 August 2011 - 08:33 PM

As far as price for the 1 pound box of Alliance #107 Sterlings (also the 33`s, 64`s etc.) Staples stores seem to have most beat..... $4.89 each...If you have a store close to you place an order with the clerk and they will ship free to your local store...Free shipping to your home for orders of $75 or more....Shipping for one box to your home wouldn`t be worth it...

I found the same thing but I still have half a pound that I got for $ 6.99 a couple of months ago at Staples. The're pretty good bands.

#43 Henry the Hermit

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Posted 19 August 2011 - 08:16 AM

The #107 bandset broke on the right side 2 inches from the fork on the 696th shot. Power remained high right up to the last shot, which hit the target by the way, meaning the band broke while contracting. I consider that to be pretty good life, especially since they were drawn to near maximum on every shot. I will continue recording life and performance on #107s, but will post updates less frequently. I think there are a few changes I can make that will increase band life, without a large decrease in speed. I think making the bands a bit longer and holding velocity to about 160 fps with .375 lead will make a difference. I also am going to use the doubled under mounting method I use on my naturals to decrease scuffing at the fork.

My first conclusion is that the Alliance Sterling #107 rubber bands are good enough for plinking, target shooting, and almost certainly small game hunting. They require no cutting except to length, are cheap, and compared to self-cut latex, long lived. Give them a try.

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Posted 19 August 2011 - 08:30 AM

Great work, Henry!
I think I'll go ahead and make up a set to use when my current fixed tube setup breaks. I haven't used them in a while and never with the 1/2" steel that I've been shooting.

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Posted 19 August 2011 - 09:12 AM

I am over 400 shots on my first set, i have them ser at 7 1/4" working length at around 150Fps.with 3/8 steel. No difference in accuracy from .030" custom cut latex to 25 meters that i can see.

Henry, what length are you using now?
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Posted 19 August 2011 - 09:25 AM

I'm getting some of these I may pay £10 inc shipping but I don't care,they have to be worth a try :D

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Posted 19 August 2011 - 09:45 AM

I might as well jump in here. I've been using these for a while and posted a while back that i was getting around 180 fps with .5 steel using the alliance sterling bands cut to about 8 inches and tapered down to about 1/2". Never did enough consistent shooting with a set to get a reliable shot count though.

I sent a set of the tapered bands to Nathan and another to LGD this week, so maybe next week they can play around with them and let us know what they think.

#48 M.J

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Posted 19 August 2011 - 10:30 AM

Just came in from shooting with some of these.
I cut one band in half to make my set, which is a trick I picked up from Bane of Small Game. After a handfull of shots the bands settled in to where they just bottom out at my usual anchor. So far I'm impressed! Shooting was very good from out to 20yds and draw weight was comperable to my favorite 4-strand 2040 tubes.
I have them on a natural I just made and realized while shooting that the whole setup (fork, bands and Performance Catapults pouch) cost less than the ammo I had in my pocket! :thumbsup:

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Posted 19 August 2011 - 10:38 AM

Tried out of the box cut in half today, they have a working length of 6 1/4" . With my short 27 1/2" draw the are almost maxed on elongation and produce hand slap with 3/8" steel and lead.

3/8 steel 174FPS
.375 lead 170FPS
.310 lead 186FPS
.457 lead 135FPS

Again this is at a short draw of 27 1/2"

There was a gain of 20FPS with 3/8 steel but not worth the hand slap. I will try to lengthen by 1/2" longer later to see whare I get. What I was trying, was to see if I could get one set of bands from a single band. Can be done but you would need to shoot heavier balls and then the speed will drop off, I shoot 3/8 steel for practice, 200+ shots a day so I want to find a happy medium of decent speed and no slap.I am shooting well at 7 1/4" worhing length, (153 FPS) comfortable but would like to get to 160/165 FPS compromise. My 1'x3/4"x .030 latex gives me 185FPS and is very comfortable.

the quest continues,
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Posted 19 August 2011 - 11:37 AM

Tried out of the box cut in half today, they have a working length of 6 1/4" . With my short 27 1/2" draw the are almost maxed on elongation and produce hand slap with 3/8" steel and lead.

3/8 steel 174FPS
.375 lead 170FPS
.310 lead 186FPS
.457 lead 135FPS

Again this is at a short draw of 27 1/2"

There was a gain of 20FPS with 3/8 steel but not worth the hand slap. I will try to lengthen by 1/2" longer later to see whare I get. What I was trying, was to see if I could get one set of bands from a single band. Can be done but you would need to shoot heavier balls and then the speed will drop off, I shoot 3/8 steel for practice, 200+ shots a day so I want to find a happy medium of decent speed and no slap.I am shooting well at 7 1/4" worhing length, (153 FPS) comfortable but would like to get to 160/165 FPS compromise. My 1'x3/4"x .030 latex gives me 185FPS and is very comfortable.

the quest continues,
Philly

Hmmm...
I used a set of cut-in-halfs with 1/2" steel and my 34-ish" draw and it worked fine. Granted, I tied them on the fork with very little left over below the tie and tried to be as efficient as possible with the pouch tie as well. They seem to settle in a bit as you use them, right now at my draw they're at about 95% of maximum stretch.
I actually have a video about this loading as we speak, stay tuned.

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Posted 19 August 2011 - 02:12 PM

Those bands are good for almost everything but hunting.

I wouldnt take a risk and try to hunt with it, but i would do all the other things with it.

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Posted 19 August 2011 - 02:29 PM

These are the cheapest I can find shipped.

http://www.buy.com/p.../206477502.html

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Posted 19 August 2011 - 02:36 PM

size 84 perform well when tied together in a 2x2 chain.

#54 M.J

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Posted 19 August 2011 - 02:39 PM

These are the cheapest I can find shipped.

http://www.buy.com/p.../206477502.html

If you have a Staples store nearby you can order online and they will ship to the store for free. Paid like $7.50 for mine, no shipping.

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Posted 19 August 2011 - 02:48 PM

Lol guys in the US do like to keep things to themselves except for a certain few!! ...crikey don't let them Brits get hold of our 107 bands LMAO

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Posted 19 August 2011 - 02:57 PM

Every question I've asked about these has fell on deff ears..its ok I don't want any...I'll find an alternative CYA

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Posted 19 August 2011 - 03:04 PM

sniper http://www.amazon.co...13787832&sr=8-2 amazon will do all the legwork for you 50 bands = 50 band sets 13p per set. :)

Alliance® Sterling Ergonomically Correct Rubber Bands, #107, 7 x 5/8, 50 Bands/1lb Box

Excellent, easy stretch to help avoid Carpal Tunnel Syndrome. Perfect for repeated use and fast application.

Approximate Count: 50
Breaking Strength: 13 lbs., Based On Example Of 1/8 in-Wide Bands
Color(s): Crepe
Compliance, Standards: Meets Federal Guideline Specifications
Elasticity: 285-300 psi
Elongation: 700%
Gauge: 1/16
Global Product Type: Rubber Bands
Length [Nom]: 7 in
Material(s): 100% Rubber
Post-Consumer Recycled Content Percent [Nom]: 0 %
Pre-Consumer Recycled Content Percent [Nom]: 0 %
Quantity [Nom]: 50 per box
Size: 107
Total Recycled Content Percent [Nom]: 0 %
Width [Nom]: 5/8 in

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#58 NaturalFork

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Posted 19 August 2011 - 03:07 PM

What the heck are you talking about slignshot_sniper? I dont live in england. I have no clue where to get them over there? Why would we?

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Posted 19 August 2011 - 03:11 PM

What the heck are you talking about slignshot_sniper? I dont live in england. I have no clue where to get them over there? Why would we?

What so you don't have questions over there?

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Posted 19 August 2011 - 03:12 PM

What the heck are you talking about slignshot_sniper? I dont live in england. I have no clue where to get them over there? Why would we?

What so you don't have questions over there?


what are you talking about?




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